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Q.I've been following all of Sean's threads fairly closely. I'm not even _close_ to being qualified to enter into the discussions. But, I've been on this rock for forty some years and was a shop steward, so I am used to being lied to, I mean, told different stories from multiple parties. Why is it, when I read Sean's posts, that there is a buzzer going off in the back of my head? It's nothing I can pin down, but there is this vague feeling that I am not getting the full story from him. Is this the reason that the Intelligent Design crowd has dropped their top down approach and are now trying to pitch it directly to the less questioning public?

A.For instance one of his main issues is the rate of evolution. He either gets it much to fast or the reverse. Keep in mind that it is a property of all creationists that whatever evolution they feel that even they must admit doesn't count. Somehow it isn't 'real' evolution by some criterion. Often they call the part that they must admit 'microevolution', and call all the rest macro. Thus in their view macroevolution never happens. Sean isn't using those terms. However he demands that things evolve quickly which by his own argument require millions of years. No, wait, by his argument trillions of years. He again demanded to see the evolution of multi-protein functions in a short time. He says that what he asks for can't be shown, therefore biology is wrong. Von Smith promptly provided a couple of examples. In fact Sean has seen at least one of them time after time. When reminded, he says No, that doesn't count. Not enough proteins. I want a completely new function requiring twenty or more proteins. I want it pronto. None of this millions of years business. This could even happen by some coincidence -- it depends, for instance on just exactly what one decides to call a brand new function -- semantics. (At what point is a modified thing 'new'?) But for something as thouroughly new as he wants, requiring as many proteins, to pop up in a short time is *not* what biololgists expect, just as geologists don't expect a new mountain range in a short time. Hence if Sean got what he wants, and especially if it happened often, it would not confirm evolutionary biology as we understand it - it would look more like Creation. I would not say, and don't think it is good for others to say as some have, that he is dishonest. Who can understand the creationist mind? On your last question: I think the DI has always tried to pitch its line to the masses.

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